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Machine Learning Engineering Is the Ultimate RL Task | Jennifer Zhao

Preference Model bets that RL environments teaching AI to do machine learning research—not just general capabilities—are the key lever for safe AI progress.

  • $16M seed round: Preference Model, led by CEO Jennifer Zhao, raised $16M led by Andreessen Horowitz and is open-sourcing its RL environment "Karrot" (referred to on air as "carrots").
  • Core thesis: Training models via RL environments to perform machine learning engineering/research is the highest-leverage way to shape how AI develops, given short capability timelines.

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