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PodcastBanklessSeptember 30, 2026

Is Variational the Next Hyperliquid? | CEO Lucas Schuermann and Justin Bram

Variational bets that a TradFi-liquidity-aggregating broker model, not order books, wins onchain RWA derivatives trading, backed by a 32% VAR airdrop.

  • Broker not exchange: Variational's OLP (Omni Liquidity Provider) system takes the other side of every trade and hedges against aggregated crypto and TradFi liquidity, rather than running an order book.
  • Swaps beat perps for RWAs: Variational's new swap instrument offers a flat 'carry cost' instead of volatile funding rates — quoted at sub-5% funding on US100 vs. crypto-perp venues, with roughly one-fifth the trading cost.

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