PodcastThe VergecastSeptember 25, 2026
Phones don't have lights
Meta's Muse agent and new hardware line signal it's racing ahead of Apple, Google, and OpenAI toward a "post-phone" AI interface, despite unresolved privacy trust issues.
- Meta bets the company on Muse: The AI agent, ~3 weeks old, topped App Store charts and reportedly outpaced ChatGPT's early growth; hosts call it the first consumer product to deliver on the industry's long-promised 'agent that does stuff for you.'
- Privacy trust gap: Muse needs Gmail/Instagram access to be useful, and Zuckerberg's defense of camera glasses ('phones don't have a light') is mocked as a thought-terminating cliché that ignores meta's history of data exploitation.
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