PodcastThe Shawn Ryan ShowSeptember 24, 2026
#342 Garand Thumb - SERE Specialist on Surviving the Most Dangerous Places on Earth
Drones now cause over 90% of Ukraine battlefield kills, and Jones says electronic warfare, not troop movement, will decide future conflicts.
- SERE training extremes: Jones survived negative-80°F Arctic exercises, 500-calorie daily rations, forty-eight-hour desert dehydration drills, and drank purified urine to teach evasion, resistance, and survival across every biome.
- Drone warfare dominance: Jones says drones now account for over 90% of kills on the Ukraine front, making frontline movement 'nearly impossible' without getting FPV-targeted or hit by toe-poppers.
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