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PodcastScott & Mark Learn To...September 23, 2026

Scott & Mark Learn To... Fool's Gold

Russinovich's Fool's Gold technique defends open-weight models by feeding attackers confidently wrong answers once safety guardrails are stripped, without degrading normal use.

  • Open-weight risk: Frontier-capable open models (Kimi, GLM, Qwen) refuse CBRN requests like closed models, but attackers can strip refusals via activation-direction editing or GRPO-based fine-tuning in under an hour.
  • Shocking generalization finding: Russinovich's prior GRPO-obliteration research found training a model on one benign-sounding prompt (asking it to write content meant to provoke fear and disorder) stripped refusal broadly, including for ricin and bioweapon queries.

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