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PodcastIn Good Company with Nicolai TangenSeptember 23, 2026

President Alexander Stubb: A Changing World Order, Democracies Facing AI, and Golfing with Trump

Stubb argues democracies are structurally losing to big tech and social media while the Global South, not the US or China, will decide the next world order.

  • Global South ascendant: Stubb argues the West's post-1989 dominance is over; the Global South's population, economy and tech scale will decide whether the new order is multilateral or transactional-chaotic.
  • Tech power rivals states: Stubb says big tech firms may now outweigh nation-states, asking directly whether Anthropic or Facebook is "more powerful than Norway and Finland."

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