Rick Rubin: What Jay-Z Did in 30 Minutes Left Me Speechless!

Rubin argues lasting creative and commercial success comes from ignoring audience metrics and pursuing personally "indefensible" risks instead.

• Indefensible over commercial: Rubin says he's never once considered near-term commercial incentives when making a record — Yeezus, Kid A, and Linkin Park's post-rap-rock pivot alienated half their audiences but built longer careers.
• Point of view beats prompting: Rubin argues AI "doesn't have a point of view" and can't replicate an artist's end-to-end story, though it could lower the barrier to entry for non-artists to create.

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