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PodcastAll-In PodcastSeptember 21, 2026

Naveen Rao: 4D Computing, AI's Energy Wall & Beating Biology

Naveen Rao says AI's binding constraint is energy, not GPUs, and unveils a prototype "dynamical computer" targeting 1,000x power efficiency in 3.5 years.

  • Energy is the real bottleneck: Naveen Rao says Google alone processes 3.2 quadrillion tokens/month, implying ~12 gigawatts of AI energy demand versus ~40 gigawatts total US data center capacity.
  • 50% of token cost is power: Rao states energy now accounts for half the cost of serving a ChatGPT-style token, with the rest being CapEx on hardware and floor space.

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